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Fix: can not delete install subfolder after upgrading phpBB on IIS

To upgrade a phpBB forum, one usually downloads an automatic upgrade package to the latest version, selecting on the website which version they currently have. The current version number at a phpBB installation is shown at the Admin Control Panel (there’s a link to it at the bottom of the main page of a phpBB forum usually) and there admins also see a warning if they have older version and links/info on how to upgrade.

After the correct automatic upgrade package is download, the install subfolder it contains has to be unpacked into the forum folder on the webserver. From that point on the forum is taken offline and users can’t log-in or see discussions anymore till the install subfolder is deleted.

The installation process is quite smooth, you just point the browser to the install subfolder (say http://localhost/myforum/install) and then it will show a step-by-step wizard, where it first updates the database to the latest version and then shows option to update the PHP files and other file resources at the forum either via FTP automatically or by creating an archive on the fly that you can download and unpack into the forum’s folder on the webserver, replacing any previous files with the same path/filename as the ones in the archive, without closing the upgrade wizard webpage. Then you tell the wizard to check again if files are now updated and you’re done.

However, there’s one last and very important step to bring the forum online again and let users log-in again to it and/or see discussions. You have to remove the install subfolder you had placed at the forum folder on the webserver.

If you use IIS (note that you can easily install WordPress and PHP on IIS using Microsoft Web Platform Installer), you may find that you can’t delete some subfolders nested a bit deeper under the install subfolder, like db and en.

I just had this issue while upgrading phpBB on http://robotics.mech.upatras.gr/forum and had tried various ways to delete the install folder, like the handy Take Ownership command on the Windows Explorer folder context menu, to no avail – that is till I realized it was IIS that was blocking deletion of those subfolders. So I opened up IIS Manager, did a Stop action on the webserver (it might have also worked if I had just stopped the respective website) and then I could delete the install folder from Windows Explorer. Started IIS again and all was up and running nicely.

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C# Using Alias Directive, Namespace Alias Qualifier and a sad story

Following up on my last post:

https://zoomicon.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/how-to-compile-code-that-uses-wpf-decorator-type-in-silverlight/

I’m copying from a mental note I added to:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4936941/using-a-using-alias-class-with-generic-types/11334359:

As shown at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/sf0df423.aspx

and

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/c3ay4x3d%28VS.80%29.aspx

you can do:

using gen = System.Collections.Generic;

using GenList = System.Collections.Generic.List<int>;

and then use

gen::List<int> x = new gen::List<int>;

or

GenList x = new GenList();

However:

you have to replicate those using definitions at every file where you use them, so if you make some changes to them in the future and forget to update at every file, things will break badly.

I hope C# in the future will treat aliases like the do with extension methods and let you define many of them in a file that you use elsewhere, then maintain them at one place and hide the internal unnecessary type mapping details from the type consumers.

 


BTW, another issue that makes me very sad to see reoccuring. Somebody (probably a moderator) replied at that StackOverflow page above that this was an old (some year and a half ago) discussion. My reply there (I’m glad that made him remove that remark, hope I proved the point):

I do know this is old discussion, but I just had the same issue and search engine took me here – why should I care if this is old discussion? Are we doing the news?

I get even worse behaviour in Microsoft Forums (or was it Microsoft Answers?) Silverlight Forums – moderators just delete any new posts at older discussion threads (they hadn’t even bothered to lock those discussions first). The just send you a lousy e-mail about the delection of your reply without sending you the deleted content (so the time you spent posting a sometimes detailed mental note as a reply there is totally wasted if you didn’t record that reply / mental note elsewhere). You can’t even reply to their e-mail with a counter argument.

They don’t really get it that people come across these matters again and again and they get to discussions that have partial information cause nobody bothered to add some mental notes after they found the answer to the issue.

The Silverlight Forums admin reply says:

The thread to which you have attempted to reply is a very old thread, and there is no value in reviving it. As a consequence, the above post has not been approved. Replying to very old threads (aka Necro-Posting) is discouraged on the forums as it moves those old threads ahead of the sites more recent threads. We ask all members who are offerring answers to please stick to the site’s more recent threads.

If only I could reply back (you can’t):

This is nonsense, search engines don’t care of the order you show them. People go there from search engine results and find poor, non-updated replies. Think for example some issue discussed and workarrounds posted. A visitor thinks it still occurs since nobody cared to note that some newer version of Silverlight fixed it / implemented it! Or imagine that there is now a better answer to a recurring old question (that search engines keep guiding people too) due to newer developments. Just fix your forum system to not bring very old-started threads to top unless admins decide to sticks them to top. Don’t waste our time please.

Those guys haven’t even bothered to update their e-mail templates and still have references to dead URLs like:

Your post was submitted as a reply to the following thread: http://forums-legacy.silverlight.net/forums/thread/410384.aspx

Since I couldn’t reply to the post delection e-mail (reply gets rejected), I opened up the issue at their forums, so please raise your voice there too if you agree with the above concerns:

http://forums.silverlight.net/p/258209/644711.aspx/1?p=True&t=634770152705948043

(wonder why that forum post doesn’t show up there currently – some people don’t like to hear the truth when it doesn’t suit them?)

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